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		<title>Comment on Product design and development for semantic analysis of social graph by MetaStock</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to set up a website for my freelance company, I do web design, development and support. I want something cool, but also something that tells people I am professional. Thanks.</description>
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		<title>Comment on CEO of MaRS got 22% raise (one month before Ontario wage freeze?), made $533K in 2010 by Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg and Luc are both admirable for publicizing opinions that will not be appreciated around the watercoolers of public power. I concur with most of their observations and point out that the course of MaRS and its impact on the likes of OCRI (pace Bob Huggins) was well adumbrated in SCAN (at http://bit.ly/loX1oj).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg and Luc are both admirable for publicizing opinions that will not be appreciated around the watercoolers of public power. I concur with most of their observations and point out that the course of MaRS and its impact on the likes of OCRI (pace Bob Huggins) was well adumbrated in SCAN (at <a href="http://bit.ly/loX1oj" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/loX1oj</a>).</p>
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		<title>Comment on CEO of MaRS got 22% raise (one month before Ontario wage freeze?), made $533K in 2010 by gregboutin</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregboutin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting. I wonder who the initial backers were. In any case, $12M in private funds for a real estate operation is hardly &quot;unprecedented&quot;, and yes, it looks like the initial vision has been supplanted by people seeking self-enrichment on the back of the Ontario taxpayer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. I wonder who the initial backers were. In any case, $12M in private funds for a real estate operation is hardly &#8220;unprecedented&#8221;, and yes, it looks like the initial vision has been supplanted by people seeking self-enrichment on the back of the Ontario taxpayer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CEO of MaRS got 22% raise (one month before Ontario wage freeze?), made $533K in 2010 by gregboutin</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregboutin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting. I wonder who the initial backers were. In any case, $12M in private funds for a real estate operation is hardly &quot;unprecedented&quot;, and yes, it looks like the initial vision has been supplanted by people seeking self-enrichment on the back of the Ontario taxpayer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. I wonder who the initial backers were. In any case, $12M in private funds for a real estate operation is hardly &#8220;unprecedented&#8221;, and yes, it looks like the initial vision has been supplanted by people seeking self-enrichment on the back of the Ontario taxpayer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CEO of MaRS got 22% raise (one month before Ontario wage freeze?), made $533K in 2010 by Luc Lalande</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luc Lalande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over a decade ago a powerful group led by Dr. John Evans rallied in excess of $12 million to pursue a project to transform a piece of real estate across the U of T to a hub of life sciences research, discovery and commercialization.  Back then, an investor&#039;s booklet was circulated giving a compelling case for purchasing the land that would eventually serve as the base for the MaRS initiative.  Interestingly, the MaRS backers, and I quote from an article in Research Money (April 23, 2001), &quot;stress that the project is private sector driven and its development will largely rely on private sector investment, but public funding of life science research and business incubator support represents an integral part of the vision.&quot; The level of initial private sector financial commitment at that time was unprecedented and eventually led to a cascade of public funds that continue unabated to this day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over a decade ago a powerful group led by Dr. John Evans rallied in excess of $12 million to pursue a project to transform a piece of real estate across the U of T to a hub of life sciences research, discovery and commercialization.  Back then, an investor&#8217;s booklet was circulated giving a compelling case for purchasing the land that would eventually serve as the base for the MaRS initiative.  Interestingly, the MaRS backers, and I quote from an article in Research Money (April 23, 2001), &#8220;stress that the project is private sector driven and its development will largely rely on private sector investment, but public funding of life science research and business incubator support represents an integral part of the vision.&#8221; The level of initial private sector financial commitment at that time was unprecedented and eventually led to a cascade of public funds that continue unabated to this day.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CEO of MaRS got 22% raise (one month before Ontario wage freeze?), made $533K in 2010 by gregboutin</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregboutin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One small question. You mentioned MaRS was &quot;then launched with significant private sector cash support&quot;. According to the reported numbers I saw and discussed here, it looks like very little private support has actually been given to MaRS. Do you have more information on that? And do you know who provided support, how (donation, loans?) and for what in return? Of course my working hypothesis is banks and law offices providing support to get prime access to MaRS tenants and the grant money administered by the institution. Would be good to know... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One small question. You mentioned MaRS was &#8220;then launched with significant private sector cash support&#8221;. According to the reported numbers I saw and discussed here, it looks like very little private support has actually been given to MaRS. Do you have more information on that? And do you know who provided support, how (donation, loans?) and for what in return? Of course my working hypothesis is banks and law offices providing support to get prime access to MaRS tenants and the grant money administered by the institution. Would be good to know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on CEO of MaRS got 22% raise (one month before Ontario wage freeze?), made $533K in 2010 by gregboutin</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregboutin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot Luc. Much, much appreciated. All the more since you are one of the very few out there who doesn&#039;t shy from putting down his real name next to his words. My turn to commend you for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot Luc. Much, much appreciated. All the more since you are one of the very few out there who doesn&#8217;t shy from putting down his real name next to his words. My turn to commend you for it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CEO of MaRS got 22% raise (one month before Ontario wage freeze?), made $533K in 2010 by Luc Lalande</title>
		<link>http://www.growthtimes.com/2011/08/ceo-of-mars-got-22-raise-one-month-before-ontario-wage-freeze-made-533k-in-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-749</link>
		<dc:creator>Luc Lalande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Greg, this is not surprising at all but it is merely a symptom of a much greater issue related to the current Ontario government&#039;s wasteful interventions in a host of policy areas, particularly in the area of innovation, science and technology.  With respect to MaRS, I had given the idea a benefit of doubt when it was first proposed and then launched with significant private sector cash support.  Today, however, I will simply say this.  With the extraordinary, yes extraordinary, level of taxpayer dollars subsidizing the operational and capital requirements of MaRS, I expect nothing less than &quot;extraordinary&quot; results.  On that level, I remain unconvinced.

MaRS will, alas, be compelled to play the &quot;collect the accolades&quot; game where they will appropriate some (and sometimes all) of the credit for any company or research commercialization success story irrespective of the actual level of interaction with any people, program or service offered by it.  Most media will cover these success stories as spun further reinforcing the public impression that these agencies are effective in their mandates.

I commend you for having sacrificed time, effort and risk in looking &quot;under the hood&quot; of the MaRS story and telling that story in an open and transparent fashion.

Luc Lalande</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Greg, this is not surprising at all but it is merely a symptom of a much greater issue related to the current Ontario government&#8217;s wasteful interventions in a host of policy areas, particularly in the area of innovation, science and technology.  With respect to MaRS, I had given the idea a benefit of doubt when it was first proposed and then launched with significant private sector cash support.  Today, however, I will simply say this.  With the extraordinary, yes extraordinary, level of taxpayer dollars subsidizing the operational and capital requirements of MaRS, I expect nothing less than &#8220;extraordinary&#8221; results.  On that level, I remain unconvinced.</p>
<p>MaRS will, alas, be compelled to play the &#8220;collect the accolades&#8221; game where they will appropriate some (and sometimes all) of the credit for any company or research commercialization success story irrespective of the actual level of interaction with any people, program or service offered by it.  Most media will cover these success stories as spun further reinforcing the public impression that these agencies are effective in their mandates.</p>
<p>I commend you for having sacrificed time, effort and risk in looking &#8220;under the hood&#8221; of the MaRS story and telling that story in an open and transparent fashion.</p>
<p>Luc Lalande</p>
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		<title>Comment on CEO of MaRS got 22% raise (one month before Ontario wage freeze?), made $533K in 2010 by gregboutin</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregboutin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, I am glad to see you had no dealings with MaRS and OCRI. Turning the argument on its head, that&#039;s probably why you still think MaRS CEO deserves her salary.

Regarding benchmarks, let me try to please you by using your variables: the head of the CBC makes about half what the CEO of MaRS makes, while managing about 5,000 people and assets many times what MaRS manages. And most of other heads of public bodies also make much less, while managing more people and more assets. Just take a look at the Sunrise report - it doesn&#039;t seem you have.

What would really be off would be comparing the salary of MaRS CEO to that, say, of a CEO of a food retailer or a partner a major law firm. Oh, wait, that&#039;s what you did. Now I&#039;ll have to understand how that works, because generally speaking those people get decades of experience and success before moving into those roles, and respond to actual customers, not the taxpayers. Now in MaRS&#039;s case, the CEO comes from a failed VC fund and basically has no entrepreneurial success behind her. She&#039;s married to the head of UofT who incidentally was also the chair of the medicine department at UofT when MaRS was created (with extensive help from, guess who... UofT!). In fact, applying MaRS&#039;s own recruiting criteria, she would not have been hired. Additionally, she does get paid by us, not any customers, and her salary has no relationship to her performance. In those situations, one sets the salary at the lowest point possible to get the right person in the job. Ask around and you&#039;ll see that you could easily find someone like that for less than $250-300K.

Your suggestion about following the democratic process is interesting and certainly does not preclude spreading the word. You&#039;ll be happy to know that, along with others, I already wrote to my MPP, as well relevant ministries, and the matter was of no interest to them as they do not concern enough people and there is no process to manage salaries at crown corporations and publicly-funded nonprofits. Which brings us back to MaRS being an unknown brand locally. So now I am trying to make sure it gets known.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I am glad to see you had no dealings with MaRS and OCRI. Turning the argument on its head, that&#8217;s probably why you still think MaRS CEO deserves her salary.</p>
<p>Regarding benchmarks, let me try to please you by using your variables: the head of the CBC makes about half what the CEO of MaRS makes, while managing about 5,000 people and assets many times what MaRS manages. And most of other heads of public bodies also make much less, while managing more people and more assets. Just take a look at the Sunrise report &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t seem you have.</p>
<p>What would really be off would be comparing the salary of MaRS CEO to that, say, of a CEO of a food retailer or a partner a major law firm. Oh, wait, that&#8217;s what you did. Now I&#8217;ll have to understand how that works, because generally speaking those people get decades of experience and success before moving into those roles, and respond to actual customers, not the taxpayers. Now in MaRS&#8217;s case, the CEO comes from a failed VC fund and basically has no entrepreneurial success behind her. She&#8217;s married to the head of UofT who incidentally was also the chair of the medicine department at UofT when MaRS was created (with extensive help from, guess who&#8230; UofT!). In fact, applying MaRS&#8217;s own recruiting criteria, she would not have been hired. Additionally, she does get paid by us, not any customers, and her salary has no relationship to her performance. In those situations, one sets the salary at the lowest point possible to get the right person in the job. Ask around and you&#8217;ll see that you could easily find someone like that for less than $250-300K.</p>
<p>Your suggestion about following the democratic process is interesting and certainly does not preclude spreading the word. You&#8217;ll be happy to know that, along with others, I already wrote to my MPP, as well relevant ministries, and the matter was of no interest to them as they do not concern enough people and there is no process to manage salaries at crown corporations and publicly-funded nonprofits. Which brings us back to MaRS being an unknown brand locally. So now I am trying to make sure it gets known.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CEO of MaRS got 22% raise (one month before Ontario wage freeze?), made $533K in 2010 by Michael Paduch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Paduch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 15:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Greg, first things first: I have not had any business dealings with MaRS, OCRI or other technology hubs. I invested my own and my partner&#039;s monies, and raised private funds from a group of private investors to develop a product before we sold the business. The only government reimbursement for our R&amp;D effort came from CRA through the SRED tax credit. That should clear the potential conflict of interest position I assume you were concerned about.

As to why a PM&#039;s salary is a comparison benchmark is unclear to me. I believe Supreme Court judges are better compensated than the Prime Minister and even then their compensation is low compared to what a CEO of a food retailer or a partner a major law firm make. I really don&#039;t see a connection. 51 direct reports is one part of the equation; the assets under management is another dimension. 

There are complex factors that weigh in when determining executive compensation, it is not as simple as comparing it against the compensation of an arbitrary political leader. So the assertion that the stated salary is &quot;grotesque&quot; may not hold although I do realize many people, especially early on in their careers, will find the amount to be high or very high.

Now, I am not sure where I implied that the public should blindly trust some &quot;enlightened aristocracy&quot; to run the public &quot;through the night&quot;. It sounds a bit like quoting from Leon Trotsky&#039;s speeches ;)

If I were you, I would follow the democratic path: I would simply write a letter to my provincial member of parliament perhaps with a follow up to a provincial auditor outlining the key concerns in factual, dispassionate way. Having some signatures from individuals who feel equally strong about the alleged misdeeds at the agency would help make your case stronger. 

While blogs are a useful mechanism for communicating thoughts of public concern, they do not require elected officials to act. A direct letter to a member of the parliament becomes an official record one cannot easily ignore (ignoring a letter from a constituent is admission of a decision not to act, which in itself may have political consequences later on).

All the best!
Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Greg, first things first: I have not had any business dealings with MaRS, OCRI or other technology hubs. I invested my own and my partner&#8217;s monies, and raised private funds from a group of private investors to develop a product before we sold the business. The only government reimbursement for our R&amp;D effort came from CRA through the SRED tax credit. That should clear the potential conflict of interest position I assume you were concerned about.</p>
<p>As to why a PM&#8217;s salary is a comparison benchmark is unclear to me. I believe Supreme Court judges are better compensated than the Prime Minister and even then their compensation is low compared to what a CEO of a food retailer or a partner a major law firm make. I really don&#8217;t see a connection. 51 direct reports is one part of the equation; the assets under management is another dimension. </p>
<p>There are complex factors that weigh in when determining executive compensation, it is not as simple as comparing it against the compensation of an arbitrary political leader. So the assertion that the stated salary is &#8220;grotesque&#8221; may not hold although I do realize many people, especially early on in their careers, will find the amount to be high or very high.</p>
<p>Now, I am not sure where I implied that the public should blindly trust some &#8220;enlightened aristocracy&#8221; to run the public &#8220;through the night&#8221;. It sounds a bit like quoting from Leon Trotsky&#8217;s speeches <img src='http://www.growthtimes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If I were you, I would follow the democratic path: I would simply write a letter to my provincial member of parliament perhaps with a follow up to a provincial auditor outlining the key concerns in factual, dispassionate way. Having some signatures from individuals who feel equally strong about the alleged misdeeds at the agency would help make your case stronger. </p>
<p>While blogs are a useful mechanism for communicating thoughts of public concern, they do not require elected officials to act. A direct letter to a member of the parliament becomes an official record one cannot easily ignore (ignoring a letter from a constituent is admission of a decision not to act, which in itself may have political consequences later on).</p>
<p>All the best!<br />
Michael</p>
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